03/23/2003 LDR MEETING MINUTES
San Francisco (post-Across the Bay 12K)
PA/USATF LDR COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES Sunday, March 23, 2003 San Francisco, following the Across the Bay 12K Those present: Tyler Abbott, men's LDR chair, Hoy's Excelsior; Susan Beck, women's LDR chair, Hoy's Excelsior; Tony Fong, masters LDR chair, WVTC; Hollis Lenderking, Ultra Chair, Bay Area Ultra Runners; Michelle Hannaford, XC chair, Impala; Cynci Calvin, LDR secretary, Chips; Irene Herman, PA Membership Committee chair, Impalas; Karen Ribble, Impalas; Lloyd Stephenson, Hoy's Excelsior; Bob Darling, Hoy's Excelsior; Martina Lauchenco Jones, Iguanas; Molly Sear, Iguanas; Dan Preston, PA web master, Empire; Mark Winitz, WVJS. Meeting called to order at 10:35 a.m. Minutes from Cal 10 Meeting approved. Cross Country Grand Prix Bids are out; schedule basically same as last year All to be approved at the Zippy 5K meeting. Ultra Grand Prix Gary Wang is replacing David Kim as the Ultra Grand Prix Scorer Two new events: Ohlone Wilderness 50K (May 18) and the Whiskeytown 50K (Oct. 25) Potential glitch is travel fund assignment due to no national 100K selector event; world 100K championship is in November in Taiwan. Road Grand Prix Fleet Feet Mile is in Davis on July 13. Unanimously approved: At race director request, Jamba Juice 5K kept on road GP after move from Sept. 14 to Sept. 21. Volunteers Need XC Co-Chair Need Pacific Association Board of Athletics LDR Committee representatives Scoring changes for 2002 1) Point weighting of races: Proposals below from the Scoring Task Force were presented to the LDR Committee. Need to be reviewed by clubs. Vote to be taken at Zippy 5K meeting. (a) Make the maximum number of points for the road 3 points. (b) Lower the minimum point value for the 30K-Marathon to 1.5 points (from 2.0) - anything 20K or longer will be minimum 1.5 points. (c) Leave the prize $ cost of points the same up to 2 points, but require that to go from 2 to 2.5 points, the race must come up with an additional $2600 and to go from 2.5 to 3 points, the race come up with an additional $5200 (above the 2.5 point figure). (d) Allow the highest point race to be no more than 1 point higher than the next highest point race. 2) Unanimously approved to table issue of point weighting for older age divisions. XC Scoring Task Force (see attached XC Task Force Report for detailed information and be prepared to vote at the Zippy meeting on the issues that were tabled or just proposed). 1a) Unanimously approved to make individual scoring the same as recently approved for the roads. 1b) Number of races scored to be kept generally the same but some flexibility allowed (the actual rule won't change). Task Force proposals concerning number of races to score 2-4 were addressed as described below. 2) PA Championship a) Unanimously approved to score "5 + 1" for championship, both teams and individuals--runners still score in their best, say, six races, but one of the races used must be the championships. In other words, runners score their championship points (which could be zero if they don't run or don't place well enough) plus, say, their top five other races. b) Unanimously approved to delete the current extra point rule, whereby the championship receives one extra point. 3) Two options for a bonus for running more than the maximum number of scored races were proposed: (i) give a small bonus (points) to every runner who completes all 10 races, either only in the proper age division or in that plus all younger divisions; (ii) give one point to every runner for every race they complete. a) By a vote of 8 to 6 a motion to table was defeated. b) LDR chair brought up point of order regarding the propriety of the vote to postpone the vote to the Zippy 5K meeting. c) It is recommended that club members e-mail XC Chair Michelle Hannaford ([email protected]) with suggestions and comments. 4) Recommendations for 2003 Tyler made a proposal to consider a third option "C" to the recommendations that number of races to score might be different for teams and individuals. 5) Point Weighting for Races (A) was unanimously approved that the minimum prize money for each race be $500 except the championship which will have a minimum of $1,000. (B), (C), and (D) (6) proposed for vote at Zippy meeting: (B) Basic point weighting is based on prize money, 1 point for $500 and 1.5 points for $1000. (C) The four men's masters divisions receive an additional half point at races with a separate masters race (there was some sentiment to apply this to women's divisions as well). (D) For every $5 increase in pre-registration fee above $10, the race must have an additional $250 in prize money over the minimum of $500 (pre-entry fees of $11-15 must have at least $750 in prize money, $16-20 must have $1000, etc.). AADP Passed unanimously to grant a male runner with the best 1/2 marathon time since October 2002 $100 from national AADP to assist with travel to the Hospital Hill Half Marathon on June 7, 2003. Runners are to submit their 1/2 marathon times. [Note: Shortly after the meeting it was found that these national AADP funds were no longer available, so the announcement was never made.] Web Sponsors Board of Athletics approved LDR Committee to investigate having some web sponsors for LDR pages on web. Feasibility Task Force: LDR chairs, Webmasters, Cynci Calvin, and Mark Winitz New Business LDR Chairs: need nominations to be submitted by Zippy 5K Meeting Nominated to date: Men's - Tyler Abbott (Hoy's Excelsior); Masters - Lloyd Stephenson (Hoy's Excelsior) XC Regional Championships Need to clear up whether Southern California or San Diego USATF Associations want to have Western Regional XC Championship. Appeals Denied: Farm Team, Silver State and Buffalo Chips appeals to allow scoring of deliquently submitted teams. Team Monterey Update Presented by Mark Winitz. Suggested to send LDR broadcast e-mail updates.
